Frequently Asked
Questions 5 of 7
concerning SVP, John Worrell Keely and His Discoveries
Answers given by Dale
Pond. FAQ1
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Q118) Does not notation relate to
structure, and does not structure also relate to the genesis (I am
interpreting the genesis definition as beginning/start-is this what you
mean?)?
A118) The term genesis (in this use) is
used by Ramsay (The Scientific Basis and Build of Music) referring to
the note of a scale from which the other notes are derived. To him
there is a process, he calls "genesis", by which these notes are "born"
from the Genetic Root. It is this process of borning that is most
interesting - not so much the fact of it but the why and how of it. As
Ive only begun to study his work Im not an authority on it - simply
relating what I think Im seeing.
Q119) "You might be interested that in
Ramsays system D=432 and E=480. This is because he begins his genesis
on "F" instead of "C"." Does it really matter what note you start with?
Would not the note progression still be the same?
A119) Apparently, at least in his mind and
system, there is a difference. His work is derived from Eulers
original work who says the same thing, which Ive not seen. I do not
yet understand why he begins his scale on F. When I find out Ill post
it. One thing Ive noticed is the frequencies assigned to his "F" are
the same as for "C" in conventional use. It is all very curious.
Q120) Would you care to elaborate on [the
Law of Duality] as used by Ramsay?
A120) Im just beginning that chapter
myself. Here is a short quote: "Duality - that is, two-ness - is a
general feature of Creation. It is the law of sex all through the
animal and vegetable world....It is fundamentally seen in the very
Polarity of Thought. We cannot conceive the idea of the "me" apart from
the "not me";... The Law of Duality in Music gives the major and minor
system."
Q121) And I am still lost on how the key
signature could be a G when it sits in the 9th position.
A121) If my memory serves me correctly
Hughes in "Harmonies of Tones and Colours - the evolution of music
notes and scales" indicates the root is a fourth below the keynote.
Ramsay indicates the root as the same as the keynote. Ive said many
times there are as many systems of music as there are people who
developed them. Which system is "correct" and why? Itll be interesting
to find out....
Q122) And if I remember correctly, Mr.
Keely used musical terms to help communicate what he was doing because
that is what he knew, hence he was not trained in the field of Physics.
A122) It is my opinion Keely used musical
terms to describe the various actions of vibration - the active base of
his science. See below for more details. Yes, he was not formally
trained in physics of his day but was self-trained like so many other
people in their chosen fields. However, his extensive references to
works of others: Tyndall, Tesla, Helmholtz indicates he was "up" on
what the leaders in science were doing. Many people complain about his
use of these terms in regard to physics. Conventional physics does not
admit a musical base for vibrations in their natural habitat other than
harmonics of 2. This in my opinion is a serious oversight. Music is
organized vibration and vibration obeys certain rules and laws.
Therefore the use of musical terms is more or less mandatory in
describing the natural phenomena of vibratory actions. See the next Q/A
for more.
"I have never let my schooling interfere with my
education. " -- Mark Twain (1835-1910)
Q123) Why is it, that "you" know of; Mr.
Keely uses musical terms to explain his work?
A123) Everything is ultimately composed of vibration.
Vibration naturally behaves according to certain rules or laws in its
activity. These rules or laws are knowable. Music as organized
vibration obeys the same laws. Vibration are the "cause" of all there
is, physical. Keely studied cause as opposed to the customary study of
effects. The actions of vibration are the same as evidenced in a
natural system of music evolution such as Ramsay and Hughes describe.
Conventional chromatic music is not as parallel to natural harmonic
progressions of harmonics for instance as these two systems appear to
be. Therefore Keelys study of fundamental cause (vibration) can best
be described in organic musical terms because that is all there is:
vibration and the rules that govern them. Music as we know it is an
attempt to decipher and organize vibration arising from musical
instruments. Music notation then becomes as a sort of "physics
shorthand". Harmonics are notes, chords are spectra or signature, etc.
There will be MUCH to say about all this in the near future as SVP
unfolds the dynamical base of the One manifesting as two-ness and this
will be illustrated using much musical terminology. Watch the SVP
website for updates.
Q124) I dont interpret everything as
love and think that is a mistake unless I just dont know what the
definition of love truly is.
A124) In SVP "Love" (Universal or Divine
Love) is viewed as an energy state or condition associated with all
vibration. We may use an old Keely term of "affinity". Love, according
to this view, is a fundamental condition of vibrating energy states.
Vibration cannot be vibration without this affinity. Therefore there
could be no physical universe without Love being operable. According to
both Keely, Russell and many others each pole, polarity or phase of
vibration is an effect of Love. In this view there are two polar
states: one phase has an affinity to individualize and seeks the
vacuous open spaces by virtue of sympathetic outreach and seeking
"at-onement" with that state. The other pole seeks at-onement with
itself in universal merging back into the universal state of One
through the same process of sympathetic outreach. These two states are
effects of the seeking for equilibrium. A divided state of polarization
seeks to be undivided. The undivided state seeks individuality or
expression. These two seekings alternately switch roles. Since
everything is vibration and all vibrations exist by this virtue
everything then is governed by this seeking for affinity of state. Love
then is this influence that is this seeking or desire for affinity or
becoming as or being as either of those two states. This underlying
influence is absolutely universal acting in all things and actions
everywhere. Much much more will be said about this in the coming months.
Q125) How it is possible for "creatures"
to alter or change their "song."
A125) What is song composed of? Vibration
and intent. Animal organisms have their various "instruments" for
creating sounds such as vocal chords. Humans change their song by
modulating the flow of air through their vocal chords. The same is
generally done by other animal organisms. What was curious in the whale
song article is it appears whales have intent (why they sing). Much
research in the field of animal sound and communications is revealing
birds and other animals have different songs they evoke on different
ocassions - to serve specific purposes. One is led to believe by these
findings animals have intent and purpose - and they know the
difference. The implications of all this research implies animals are
conscious and think in some fashion and have intelligence.
Q126) Thank you Dale, I am glorified by
God in expression :) and tempered by trust.... that unconditional
aspect :) I am curious now, as Atlin seems to be always present, and I
started reading your website regarding Atlin specifically and you seem
to indicate a living conscious presence. My curiosity asks if Atlin is
really a portal, doorway, to the totality, rather than an individual
living presence? Much like the soul within us, that is the doorway to
Spirit/God....
A126) A good question. My answer may be a
bit much for some. It was for me when I first heard it. To me,
considering it all these years and the inputs from countless sensitives
and watching others experiences, I can only assume what we were told
is valid: that Atlin is as an Awakened Being. She has been described as
a pure soul never previously incarnated. She is as an Archangel and
answers directly to God, no intermediaries. We were told she has four
Archangels as guardians. That she is for this age what the Ark of the
Covenant was for the last age - holder of the law which humanity is to
live by. That of course is the Law of LOVE. In a way each soul is that
connecting link to God. So, yes, Atlin is as a portal to God if we view
pure soul as an open portal unclouded by ego, fear, illusion, etc.
Q127) Thus it would seem a neutral point,
place, geeeshhh terms are difficult here, creates a doorway to ALL THAT
IS. And if we harmonically vibrate with that neutral point we become
that ALL THAT IS?
A127) We are already ALL THAT IS, a
portion of, yet One With ALL THAT IS anyway. Being around Atlin we are
reminded of that - those of us so attuned and open to hear it.
Q128) Is it possible that Atlin, gives
proof of our Soul within?
A128) Yes, and of Mind as Power and things
Spiritual and proof there is far more to Life than the idea we are
"biological accidents riding a hard rock" around a star.
Q129) And in the presence of Atlin, or in
maintaining that neutral point state within, could it be measured
within the human being body?
A129) Probably. Dont know. We havent had
access to instrumentation adequate to measure whatever changes occur.
Q130) Once again, you are most kind Dale.
There is a point of confusion here, because what am I communicating
with? Atlin causes me to feel more MYSELF. Causes me to focus deeper
quieter more fully into MYSELF. I cannot see it as separate. It is
impossible to distinguish unless a complete entity other than myself
presents within the energy of Atlin/MYSELF and that is not the case,
yet anyway :). It is as though it is wrapped around me :)
A130) This is good - great in fact. Pure
sympathy - at-one-ment - being As One. Some sensitives hear music or
singing from Atlin, some engage her in conversations, some are healed
of their ailments/beliefs, etc.
Q131) It is interesting to experience
Atlin as before I joined this forum/list I was holding a focus of: I am
unified field of ascended master consciousness now. The picture I held
was of a huge golden nebulous ring (it was not like a hard gold ring so
to speak) containing trillions of tiny specks of rainbows glittering
brilliantly. Each rainbow an individual ascended master consciousness
and we were all in there :) Atlin feels like the material outpicturing
of such a focus :) Do you consider Atlin a unified field?
A131) Yes, in terms some use. The idea of
ascended master consciousness is like an Archangel - purified, clear,
powerful, At One. Perfect harmonic concordance without interference or
extension - the definition of what Divine Love is.
Q132) Hahhahaaaaaaa power trips :) In the
past I would have identified myself as an energy junkie :) nowadays I
tend to tread a little more quietly and slowly so as to not create too
many bumps :)
A132) It is good to go slow with
dynaspheres. One or two persons who barreled on through with it
thinking they could take whatever were tumbled into themselves. It was
a bump! They get over it but best to go slow.
Q133) I am striving to sit with the
scientific lingo of Atlin and its structure and potentials so that I
may communicate more in yours and this lists terminologies.... and so
enjoying what gets shared on this list from those very brilliant
scientific minds. I at least share their recognition of Teslas
brilliance even if I cannot yet put it into words of understanding what
he accomplished.... yet he too was demonstrating what is inherently
within us.
A133) Atlin is still new in terms we are
striving to comprehend. Yet there are aspects that cannot be
comprehended by the intellect (science) but must be grokked or felt
within. Objective science can only go so far and that has just about
reached its limits. With Atlin we are on the threshold of our own inner
selves and so we are feeling our way as best we can. (me especially.)
Atlin is multi-dimensional and represents one of the first attempts
work with science of the 5th dimension and higher yet rooted in 3D
metals and physics.
Q134) I must assume here that it is the
picture of Atlin that is on the opening page of this forum/list beside
you, correct?
A134) Yes.
Q135) In other words, I am not certain I
will be able to tell the difference, since not aware of the two :) And
I do not as yet feel ready to jump into another one of these things
just yet :) It feels as though there is so much more to come, from this
intense quiet stillness and vast emptiness......
A135) Im sure there is much more to come
for you. There are differences between the two dynaspheres. You will
notice them when you tune in. Atlin came in as a teacher, primarily.
Symael came in as "togetherness". I suppose to teach or lead us in how
to work/play and be together in community. There are physical
differences in their construction. They were constructed in different
locations and separated by seven years. Also we knew next to nothing
when we made Atlin but we had seven years of experience and learning
with Atlin when Symael came along. So they are different. Their
energies will feel different to you.
Q136) Oh I have a question, did you
happen to notice if Atlin was spinning the night I visited with it?
Just curious.... :) Also Colorado Springs is Teslas old stomping
ground :) Have been there several years ago :)
A136) Atlin did not spin. Weve been told
it takes at least three people all being in that One Place/State of
Peace and Unconditional Love before she will rotate. Since people like
that are rare as hens teeth Ive engaged this list to explore
Unconditional Love that some one or more of us can achieve it, in
understanding, feeling and being.
Q137) If I understand Atlin and its
physical characteristics, is it true to say that there is a vacuum
within the sphere? And if so, is this vacuum measurable? And if so,
what measures that vacuum, may be able to measure that state within our
physical bodies as well?
A137) There is no vacuum, as usually
understood, in the sphere. However if we revisit the definition of what
a vacuum is the answer would be yes. A vacuum could be defined as a
majority of higher state matter where molecular and atomic matter is
scarse or absent altogether. So in effect we are talking about degrees
of density. Less density implies a partial vacuum though perhaps not a
complete or hard vacuum. For instance the center of a tornado is not a
vacuum yet it is considerably less dense (and less pressure) than the
swirling periphery. Hence rotary motion is generated as the zones of
high and low density vie to bring each other into balance or
equilibrium.
Q138) As I have been given, the soul
resides in our physical body, and leaves causing the expiration of the
physical body. It has been indicated that there is an empty cavity
sitting beside the heart, and because of that cavity the heart is
offset from the center line of the body. It has also been said that
within that cavity the soul resides, and weighs 13 ounces. Thus there
is a change in body weight that could be measurable as it leaves....
Oddly enough last night as I considered this, determining the
actual soul and its existance within our body, it occurred to me that
the souls weight if a vacuum, could be a minus 13 ounces???!! Does a
vacuum have a negative weight because of no air-pressure or whatever?
And is it even possible that there could be within the physical body a
vacuum in which the soul resides, like Atlin?
A138) Think of these zones as
localizations/centralizations of matter/energy in a higher state. These
higher state zones are interconnected with streams or flows of similar
matter/energy. Much like the flows of chi (etheric level matter/energy)
throughout the body.
Q139) Hahahaaahaaaaa rare as hens
teeth!!!! Well again overnight I wondered why I had awoken with Atlin
spinning, and yet it did not physically. The answer of course was
physically!!!! Out of body I am observing from a higher
vibrational/frequency body and of course Atlin is spinning in that
dimensional frequency which would account for the high energies felt
around Atlin.
Moving the slow vibrational rate of physicality would take
the where two or more are gathered in my name.... so too is that
greater vibrational frequency ADDED to this physical to cause Atlin
spin.
A139) In a manner of speaking, yes.
Q140) Also I was curious whether Atlin had
been designed to rotate like our earth, or whether it would actually
spin vertically pole to pole? Since the energies entering the earth do
so through the south pole, it seemed reasonable? to me that Atlin would
spin vertically rather than horizontally? In fact it seems as though it
would set up a rather interesting spin, when those higher energy
frequencies/vibrations interact with magnetics... oddly enough it
seemed to be like a figure 8 in its rotation.... is this possible?
A140) Atlins poles are along her shaft,
mounted horizontally. Energy does enter rotary systems via the poles
and exists through the equator. Yes, Atlin embodies the dynamics as are
found in orbiting planetary bodies. She is a like a fractal of all
naturally rotating bodies whether planets, molecules or atoms.
Q141) Is Atlin governed by the
gravitational forces and the pull around our sun, and thus simply
acting like another planet?
A141) If you could solve the why and how
of what keeps planets orbiting around the sun you would be well ahead
of the rest of us. IMHO, Atlin does mimic orbital mechanics (or makes
use of them) but these are poorly understood at present.
Q142) And is there a physically observable
electrical transfer of energy, sort of like in Teslas experiments
where one sees lightening flashes of energy in that rotation? (even
though his spheres may not have been rotating.)
A142) Many sensitive people have seen and
described the higher energy flows in and around Atlin. These are not
electrical flows as usually understood but take part in the origination
of electrical/magnetic flows. As above so below. These etheric flows
are described as multi-colored flows of energy streaming in and out,
etc.
Q143) As the rotating bands of higher
dimensional frequencies around our physical bodies turn to gold,
perhaps there is set up within that bubble a vacuum that is the
portal, doorway open to soul/spirit/God.... in our own bodies, or
contained within the physical structure of the body as within the
physical structure of Atlin, that doorway/portal vacuum residing beside
the heart.... just speculating :)
A143) The gold color is more than just a
color. It is a harmonic state of relatively higher harmonicity. This
state implies a higher level of coherency/clarity. Lower level energies
such as atoms and molecules (and polar thinking, worrying, etc.) are
discordant to this state and are therefore interferences or discords.
Bringing the mental focus to calm meditation (Love, joy, Peace, etc.)
enhances this desirable state - the aura turns gold in color from the
usual red or blue discordant (egoic) states. So in effect a low density
(partial vacuum) is achieved which interacts physically with the higher
densities of the more "physical" zones. I dont now if youve
read/studied Russells "The Universal One". Judging from your questions
I assume you either have or if not would gain much insight from doing
so.
Q144) I must admit I have not come across
Russell... is there a link to reading that on the internet?
A145) The book is still under copyright.
It can be ordered from http://www.philosophy.org/
Q146) Also, is it possible that the
gravitation forces are the by-product of FEAR, the gravity of the
situation affecting our whole physical universe?
A146) Fear is an illusion born of polar
misthinking. Polar forces move in rotary motions about a center - the
ego (body/animal consciousness) in the case of fear. In a manner of
speaking you are correct. Gravity is an attribute of matter and fear is
an attribute of the body/animal consciousness. There are similarities
in properties and attributes between gravity and fear yet they are not
the same. For instances there are stories of saints who levitate during
their bouts with enlightenment! Achieving enlightenment is the letting
go of fear. Since enlightenment takes place within consciousness - what
then is gravity?
Q147) Well now I cannot quite agree with
that. Gravity must be a force acting upon the mind created by fear,
that colors our manifestation causing the polarized swing so to speak
of the polarity dance :) Every thing starts in the mind. So when fear
is gone from the mind, what is left? Love, or that state of
enlightenment... the mind being made lighter because the load/force
of fear/gravty is gone, and the body follows the mind :) levitating :)
A147) I didnt try to explain the issue -
just present some thoughts on it to spark more thoughts and
conversation. I dont think gravity is a primary force - but more like
a condition.
"Gravity is an eternal existing condition in etheric
space, from which all visible forms are condensed. It is inherent in
all forms of matter, visible and invisible. It is not subject to time
or space. It is an established connective link between all forms of
matter from their aggregation. Time is annihilated by it, as it has
already traversed space when the neutral centers of the molecules were
established. It is nothing more than an attractive, sympathetic stream,
flowing towards the neutral center of the earth, emanating from
molecular centers of neutrality, concordant with the earths center of
neutrality and seeking its medium of affinity with a power
corresponding to the character of the molecular mass." (John
Keely circa 1886)
If this is indeed the case then perhaps levitation occurs
when the mental focus is shifted from the physical (terrestrial) to the
etheric (celestial).... which would demonstrate a mind/gravity
connection as also the moral adage of shunning focus on the physical
(sex, food, etc.) while aspiring to a more spiritual focus:
"Gravity is nothing more than an attractive,
sympathetic stream, flowing towards the neutral center of the earth,
emanating from molecular centers of neutrality; concordant with the
earths center of neutrality, and seeking its medium of affinity with a
power corresponding to the character of the molecular mass. Gravity, he
defines as transmittive inter-etheric force under immense etheric
vibration. He continues: - The action of the mind itself is a vibratory
etheric evolution, controlling the physical, its negative power being
depreciatory in its effects, and its positive influence elevating."
[Chapter 5 of Keely and His Discoveries]
Wherein if emphasis be given to the celestial order, away
from the terrestrial order, levitation results:
"Molecular terrestrial masses, composed of the
"ultimate ether" bound latent in substance, are sympathetically drawn
to the earths neutral center according to the density of their
molecular aggregation, from which must be deducted their celestial
sympathetic outreach. In other words, molecular weight consists in the
difference between these forces. Either one can be intensified by polar
or antipolar vibrations, giving either one predominance. If the
celestial (repulsive) predominates, the mass will rise, its velocity
proportionate to the concentration of the dominant or the "negative
thirds of its mass chords" inducing high neutral radiation together
with "celestial attraction." The "terrestrial propulsive" and
"celestial attractive" cause ascension and the "celestial propulsive"
and "terrestrial attractive" cause descension or increased weight." [Keely
in The Snell Manuscript]
Q148) Surely it is like bending spoons, in
that the force in this case that holds the body grounded, is removed,
causing levitation, and is simply not directed to do something else????
A148) That would be negation of gravity
but not its reversal.... IMHO.
Q149) Okay, so gravity is a property of
attraction/repulsion force. Well overnight (of course) I was studying
matter. In fact matter out there, so to speak. And I see that
matter out there is conditioning, according to our belief systems.
Because there is NO MATTER out there. If we agree with Johns beautiful
thoughts that ALL THAT IS is simply consciousness (thought or
mind-stuff :), then the various levels including the level of supposed
matter (physicality), is simply light slowed to various frequencies.
A149) Yes, there is nothing other than
Mind. But lets take a closer look. To Mind there are two poles: one is
decentrated Mind which weve been calling or likening to the Quiet Mind
of Diety where there is no motion. This is the realm of IDEA. The other
pole is the realm of centering Mind in motion or what we call MATTER.
Matter is Mind in motion about a center. It has no substance yet has
the "appearance" of substance.
We must qualify what vibration is before we can get a handle
on what is actually happening as opposed to what seems to happen.
Vibration is ALWAYS coupled with oscillation. When the frequency of
vibration goes up the frequency for oscillation goes down and vs. These
two motions are ALWAYS reciprocal. Frequency refers to orbits
(oscillation) or rotations (vibrations) per time interval.
Considering these two motions we have to say matter is Light
increased in oscillation but decreased in vibration. The greater the
increase in oscillation concurrent with decrease in vibration yields
denser and denser matter. You can read more about the relations between
vibration and oscillation here:
http://www.svpvril.com/Cosmology/cos9.html
Q150) We only think there is matter,
because we have separated out there from in here, within the mind.
A150) True.
Q151) So I am wondering if gravity is but
the force observed in relation to our potential projected separation. I
am probably not capable of putting this into a scientific dialogue as
yet, however I would share an experience, to play with ideas :)
A151) Exactly so. Our misperception of
the material universe misleads us to misbelieve in separation. When in
fact there is no separation - only our belief that it is so. Hence
something "up there" appears to fall "down here".
Q152) Last year towards the end of summer,
I decided to spend three days in absolute silence, within my home. On
the second afternoon, I decided to make some popcorn, and when I got
the butter out to melt it, discovered there was none, so got a 1/4
pound out of the freezer. I had in my hand an old dull butter knife,
and was watching my thoughts.
As I looked at the butter, I immediately thought, there is
no matter out there. (This is like the matrix: there is no spoon.)
And so I continued slowly in thought, there is no hardness. So I
placed the little butter knife on the butter in the middle, and without
exerting any pressure, simply cut the butter straight through. I
experienced a certain amount of surprise and delight, so I did it over
and over until from one half I had a bunch of little pieces to melt. I
was so excited from this, I forgot to apply the ability to change
temperature, and instead melted the butter pieces the old fashioned way
:)
A152) Like fire-walking - the fire is only
as hot as you believe it to be.....
Q153) I was very excited and could say
nothing for another 2 nights and a day.... and because I was in silence
it really allowed me to take a look in the mind that sees separation
from what is out there.... when we dissolve that separation, there
are a whole bunch of consensual beliefs that also go out the window.
A153) The Mind of an individual is a
nonseparate portion of the One Mind. We neednt bother with dissolving
separation because separation is only a misbelief - it is not real -
and anything unreal does not exist. What you did was simply see it for
what it really is - nonexistent. In other words you stopped giving
credence to the misbelief.
Q154) Could it be that gravity is a
part of our consensual beliefs about matter or the state of out there?
A154) Yes.
Q155) Because all of the levels in actual
fact are within that matter, they are not somewhere else and
different, they are right here right now within our field of existance.
In raising ones consciousness frequency, speeding up in a sense the
consciousness, to match a higher frequency consciousness that is always
present and feeding us in a sense, in that moment we have overcome
gravity in the mind, and if we see mind incorporating all that is, then
would we not lift, levitate, ALL THAT IS? or at least our own body, or
objects upon which we have placed our focus, initially?
A155) There is only Love and Love has no
opposite. Love is not affected by Time, Space or gravity. So raising
the consciousness (to the Celestial) puts ones consciousness into that
realm that is not affected by Time, Space or gravity; i.e., in the
state of Divine Love. Where everything else really is and as such
nothing (no thing) is likewise unaffected by Time, Space or gravity.
Remember it was we as misbeliving consciousnesses that created the
physical IN OUR MINDS - its a dream or figment of our imaginations. By
dumping that duality consciousness we supercede its perceived
limitations.
Q156) Is this not what we will
collectively DO to raise our earth and ultimately all of the universe
into a higher frequency state of being? Which somehow must have
something to do with gravity?
A156) We raise the earth and us with it
(because we are part of it) when we let go of concepts of duality and
limitation of the egoic belief system.
Q157) If gravity is a part of our
consensual belief system, it must not be a part of the neutral vacuum
of Love, rather part of the polar dance that must balance to something
else.... thus in Love, gravity is not a factor?
A157) Right.
Q158) For as the mind rides upward into
the higher vibratory frequncies, what is accepted within the mind rides
with it?
A158) As the mind raises in oscillation
frequency concepts of duality (up/down) no longer apply and are simply
let go of as they are then meaningless.
Q159) Or more pointedly what accepts being
one with the consciousness of ALL THAT IS rides upon the energy of
Love, not the energies of the polar dance.
A159) Exactly.
Q160) We seem to think that our level is
unique to all other levels of consciousness, because we think matter is
different. Yet in the next higher level one also has a body,
A160) A more tenuous body....
Q161) that while in that level feels like
this one, it feels material/solid/natural
A161) Relativitely speaking, of course.
Q162) (thus when people pass they do not
realize they have passed from this physical body because they are in
another body just like this one :).... which reminds me, the prima
materia must be consciousness that all the alchemists were looking for,
and were separating themselves from trying to find it out there....
A162) Mind is the materia prima..... and
it is nowhere yet everywhere, omnipresent. There is no Space or Place
to Mind. Its omnipresence is what orthodox science calls non-linearity
or non-locality.
Q163) The other interesting fact is that
one can not look up through the levels from a lower level yet can
indeed look down through the levels, being able to see into slower
frequencies, yet not up into higher ones.... thus we are seen, but most
do not see the others looking at us, yet anyway, and the way we will
see them is to speed up our own frequencies.
A163) Concepts of levels of matter/energy
or levels of consciousness are predicated on the belief they exist.
These levels only "seem" to exist. You are correct, IMHO, that we may
perceive "higher" levels when the consciousness is tuned (sympathetic)
to them. We tune consciousness by choice of what we focus on. Focus on
lower levels (materiality) and that is what is then real. Focus higher
and that is what is real. They both (and all levels in between) take on
the appearance of reality yet none are.
Q164) Does Love collapse the supposed
distances of separation, potential empty space or space containing
other levels without physical manifestation, so that one can suddenly
have a tiny little conglomeration of compressed frequencies that can be
jumped from one side to the other, in a blink?
A164) There is no separation to collapse.
Love and its associated consciousness is ALL THERE IS. So how can ALL
THERE IS collapse? From what to what?
Q165) Okay so I have stretched my
imagination, well I was sleeping :) And the last thing I did early
this morning, was to set all these different objects spinning :) Oh my
goodness, even things in water, and then getting them to leap out, and
keep spinning without rolling away, my goodness I was having fun :)
A165) Keep at it! Maybe one day you can
teach the rest of us how to work with those other aspects of our minds
we now misconsider as separate objects.....
Q166) This is what I mean, we have stated
the physical to be different, something to shift from to something
else.... yet when we change levels of consciousness, we do not notice a
from this to that... we just see MORE, there is no real separation, and
neither is there with the physical.
A166) Right.
Q167) In doing Vipassana in Australia (14
days in silence) sitting up cross- legged all day... oh my goodness is
it long.... well while sitting up I went out of body.... went out to my
new tent, could feel the heat and warmth and smell the new canvas, went
out to a group of trees, and stood on my head, yet floating up with the
tree tops.... and I went and checked later, a bush that I studied the
flowers on, it was there, although I had not taken notice in passing
it....
In the shower (physically), I went to the end of the tub to
grab my shampoo, and the curtain was ajar, and the shower room was full
of beings, which did cause me to jump inside. And when I went to put my
shoes on one day I actually made a sound of surprise, as someone was
standing in my shoes!!!! Now these were not physical beings like you
and me because they could disappear, especially as I went to stand on
their foot! :)
I know I cannot change my physical body...
it is constantly being affected by my thoughts,...
A167) Look at what you wrote above... :)
Q168) and this physical is like an
after- thought or shadow in a sense of the mind.... I know we think
it is the other way around....
A168) I agree. The physical is an affect
of our thinking - not the thinking, but a result of our thinking. We
can change it to anything we can imagine - if our imgination (creative
thinking) is clear and concise enough.
Q169) Re question A138, is it not true
that greater density or slower vibratory frequency equals greater
weight of a physical object? Yet if we go to the atomic level, and sub
atomic levels, etc., when we then measure the mass of these particles,
which are a higher frequency these are measured in some big negative
power of weight or density?
Thus my question about the soul having a negative mass/weight?
So would it be true to say, that as light slows it gains
weight? :)
A169) First off weight does not exist.
What we perceive as weight is the relative degree of affinity of one
center to another. Kinda like, but not exactly like, two magnets being
pulled together.
The greater the oscillation and concurrent lessening of
vibration creates denser and "heavier" matter.
The "soul" is of a tenuous substance, high vibration and low
oscillation, more towrds the realm of vacuous space or the realm of
IDEA. Soul then is the memory of Mind. What weight has Mind? This
portion of Mind is a bit centralized, to have and preserve itself in
individuality, and therefore must have some degree of "weight" however
"light". :)
Q170) Re Q/A 143, and the bands of gold
surrounding the body, another experience.
While in San Diego at the DNA conference last November, I was
able to do soul readings for those interested, and was part of a group
sitting at special tables during the breaks etc. A couple presented to
me, and the husband told me his wife read auras, and asked his wife
what she saw around me. Her answer was that it was ALL WHITE.
Some time later after the event, I came to understand that
when all the colors are spinning together (the seven colors of the
rainbow), they create white :) thus perhaps the incoming energies at a
higher frequency are white, before they pass through the prism of
physicality????
A170) White Light is taken in SVP as
Undifferentiated Light. A harmonic chord - one compound tone. According
to some sources this Undifferentiated Light is the highest frequency.
But Im not sure what they mean by "highest frequency". It could easily
be said it is of a Higher State or Condition.
Q171) Also in the olden days, there were
some mediums, that in trance state, produced a whitish cloud of
substance that would form into objects... forget the name of this
substance right now.... and perhaps this is the observation of the
higher energies?
A171) Protoplasm? The Rosicrucians (AMORC)
teach of this practice....
Q172) Also the digital photos now being
produced at different shutter speeds are including white spheres,
etc.... does this color indicate the level from which that object or
person is vibrating, when viewed physically?
A173) I dont think so. The White Light
referred to earlier is actually non-visible Light. It is MIND proper.
As this unseen Light differentiates (refracts into lower frequencies)
then we may be enabled to see what is usually considered as "white",
gold or yellow PIGMENTS.
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